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Re: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern

  • To: Nancy Coats; Ignacio Pessoa; George McAndrews; Tony Castrilli
  • Subject: Re: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern
  • From: Steve Mason/Alex
  • Date: 08 May 2008 14:09:29
  • Bcc:
  • Cc: Robin Wilson/Alex

I can.

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Nancy Coats
    Sent: 05/08/2008 02:07 PM EDT
    To: Ignacio Pessoa; George McAndrews; Steve Mason; Tony Castrilli
    Cc: Robin Wilson
    Subject: Fw: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern

        Ignacio -- could you and/or George attend a meeting to discuss this tomorrow at 3:00/3:15 (right after the weekly Mayor/Manager meeting)

        Steve/Tony -- can the two of you attend as well?

----- Forwarded by Nancy Coats/Alex on 05/08/2008 02:04 PM -----
Adam Thiel/Alex

05/07/2008 07:25 PM

Michele Evans/Alex@Alex, Jim Hartmann/Alex@Alex
Re: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk SouthernLink

We can make it work and I agree that we should accept the trailer forthwith; but I think there's room for us to counter.

I'm open Friday after 1400...but can make time earlier, if needed.



    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Michele Evans
    Sent: 05/07/2008 07:21 PM EDT
    To: Jim Hartmann
    Cc: Adam Thiel
    Subject: Re: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern

Ok we will set something up tomorrow for friday

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Jim Hartmann
    Sent: 05/07/2008 07:11 PM EDT
    To: Michele Evans
    Cc: Adam Thiel
    Subject: Re: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern

Just read the letter. Lets see if fleet has a retiring truck in good shape. Training should be at least three to cover different shifts. Im ok with meeting friday by have a small window.

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Michele Evans
    Sent: 05/07/2008 02:10 PM EDT
    To: Jim Hartmann
    Subject: Fw: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern

Any thoughts on this?

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Adam Thiel
    Sent: 05/07/2008 01:36 PM EDT
    To: Michele Evans; Jim Hartmann; Ignacio Pessoa
    Cc: George McAndrews; Tony Castrilli; Steve Mason
    Subject: Fw: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern

Please see the attached response from NSC; it's a start, but doesn't go far enough in meeting our needs.

I spoke with Doug McNeil, told him we'll review their response, and to expect a call from Mr. Castrilli regarding the imminent "community conversation" about the facility/operation.

I think we should "appreciate" their willingness to contribute the trailer/foam, but take a hard line in further negotiations (there is room for some compromise, but I'm disinclined to do so, considering our present negative fiscal situation v. NSC's positive one); I also think we should ask them to come up for a meeting this Friday to discuss further.

Bottom-line: The trailer/foam doesn't do us a bit of good without a dedicated tow vehicle, which we don't currently possess. Furthermore, we need to do a lot more training than sending 1 person/year to TTCI. I'm OK with reducing the annual maintenance fee, but we still need to get something for depreciation and ongoing training/upkeep.

Let me know how to proceed...


Adam K. Thiel
Fire Chief
Alexandria Fire Department
900 Second Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
Phone: xxx-xxx-xxxx
Fax: xxx-xxx-xxxx
E-mail: text converted to image to prevent junkmail harvesting

----- Forwarded by Adam Thiel/Alex on 05/07/2008 01:28 PM -----
"McNeil, Doug" <>

05/07/2008 12:16 PM

<text converted to image to prevent junkmail harvesting>
"Webb, Mike" <>, "Edwards, John, V" <>, Lawson David <>
RE: Alexandria VA FD - Norfolk Southern


Attached is Norfolk Southern?s response.  A hard copy will be mailed.

Doug McNeil
Director Government & Distribution Services
xxx-xxx-xxxx (cell)


From: text converted to image to prevent junkmail harvesting [mailto:text converted to image to prevent junkmail harvesting]
Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:13 AM
Webb, Mike
McNeil, Doug
Re: Response



OK...we're awaiting your response to communicate with City Council.



 ----- Original Message -----
"Webb, Mike" []
05/07/2008 10:59 AM AST
Adam Thiel
"McNeil, Doug" <>


Adam ?


I am traveling today, so Doug McNeil will be sending a NS response to you prior to noon today.


Mike[attachment "Alexandria VA Fire Dept Thiel 080507.pdf" deleted by Jim Hartmann/Alex]