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Re: Remaining Issues at NSRC's Ethanol Transloading Facility in Alexandria

  • To: "Jordan, A. Gayle" <>,Sarah_Graham/Alex%ALEX,Adam_Thiel/Alex%Alex
  • Subject: Re: Remaining Issues at NSRC's Ethanol Transloading Facility in Alexandria
  • From: Rich_Baier/Alex%ALEX
  • Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:26:26 -0400
  • Cc: "Lawson David" <>,"McNeil, Doug" <>,"Webb, Mike" <>,"Edwards, John, V" <>
  • Importance: Normal

Thanks for the note and as I  am sending information it is only a cover letter and the ordinance section scanned in and sent on Friday. Per the city attorney the ordinance  section that lists the materials noted below does not contain an exhaustive or exclusive listing. It is an exemplary in nature and it is being applied to projects like the Woodrow wilson bridge and the like. I hope this clarifies. I think the preemption issue is certainly correct outside of the right of way as the city owns its roads outright unlike most  other jurisdictions in the country.

  From: "Jordan, A. Gayle" []
  Sent: 05/12/2008 05:07 PM AST
  To: Sarah Graham; Rich Baier; Adam Thiel
  Cc: Lawson David <>; "McNeil, Doug" <>; "Webb, Mike" <>; "Edwards, John, V" <>
  Subject: RE: Remaining Issues at NSRC's Ethanol Transloading Facility in Alexandria

Hello. I am responding on behalf of Norfolk Southern on the hauler permit and storm water issues which were raised during our Friday afternoon conference call. I do not have all the email addresses of the others on the call from the City so I ask that you forward this response to them.  
I have reviewed Section 5-2-27 and don't see how that provision applies to trucks hauling ethanol since ethanol is neither a waste material, construction supply, construction material, construction equipment, dirt, debris nor fill.  
The facility aspect in (d) would also fail on two counts as ethanol tank trucks would not be covered and given the railroad's ICCTA preemption over local permits.  I understand Mr. Baier is going to send me some more information later this week, and we will of course consider what is presented. 
As for the storm water plan, the state storm water requirements do not apply to this operation. This has been confirmed again with outside counsel. Nonetheless, in a spirit of cooperation Norfolk Southern will prepare a storm water plan for the facility.
I understand that Fire Chief Thiel is working up a revised ethanol fire/spill response list and will send us spec and vendor information . With this additional information in hand we will advise as the railroad's position on the 450 truck.    
Thank you for forwarding my email to the others.  Gayle Jordan

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Good afternoon,

I send this on Rich Baier's behalf. He will follow with a letter next week.

Sarah Graham
Secretary II
T&ES Administration
City of Alexandria